Tamarack and Trains Update

May 11th, 2009

Last week I asked if people wanted to contribute to helping fund a reassessment of the vibrations. I’m still collecting responses — if you want to help do something about the trains in Tamarack, please let me know ASAP! I am also contacting Summerhill to figure out what the cost is going to be, as I’m sure that might influence many people’s decision.

In regards to the train survey I am a little concerned about WHEN it would be best to have them come in and down the survey. The last week, for example, hasn’t been that bad for vibration at our house. But a few weeks ago it was horrible. If anyone has any other suggestions on how to ensure that we get the survey done at the right time (when the trains are vibrating the most) please let me know.  Has anyone been keeping better track of when the trains are at their worst?

Tamarack - Summerhill update

May 5th, 2009

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We have received a reply from Michael Haupt the General Manager for Summerhill Homes, in regards to our being disatisfied with how the sale process went for our home in the Tamarack subdivision of Edmonton, Alberta, and how difficult it had been to gather information to make a more informed decision.

This is a high-level summary of his response:

  • A ground vibration study was performed for Dundee (the area developer) on May 23 to June 2 2003 and established that “the ground-bourne vibration level at the building location is expected to fall well below the Reiher and Meister limit of ‘barely noticeable to persons’…
  • On page 2 it is shown that Dundee decided to ignore the CN recommendation for maximum ground vibration and build closer to the tracks than they needed to. “…the ground vibration level at the 45m setback will be approximately 0.16mm/sec slightly exceeding the CN criteria of 0.14 mm/sec.
  • Certain statements in the study such as  on page 3 where it says “As can be seen from Figure 3, the anticipated vibration level at the 45m setback location will be still substantially lower than that caused by bus traffic in front of the house” contradict with our actual experience. We suffer significantly more disturbance than when we lived in a home on a bus route.

Even more concerning is that the construction that is occurring across the alley from us (new homes being dug and built) is causing less vibration and noise than the train.

You can download/read the full cn-rail-line-assessment-tamarack here.

However Mr. Haupt did offer a propsoal. Summerhill Homes is willing to form a committe to review the vibration noise and have another vibration survey performed to see if there have been any changes in rail operation (the last survey was 6 years ago)  and if they are affecting homes.

Summerhill and interested homeowners would share the workload and cost. If you are interested in participating in this please e-mail Brent at knowedge@hotmail.com

That said, even if there are problems found, we would still need to try and work with CN Rail to do something about changing the way the rail line works and based on my discussions with Transport Canada and CN, this is very unlikely. This is one of their most important rail lines.

We haven’t decided exactly what we are going to do. All parties, including the homeowners, share some of the blame but I can’t help but feel that the City of Edmonton and Dundee are the biggest culprits here. There was no need with such a large land mass available to build right beside the tracks.

Anways, if you are interested in working with Summerhill to do another vibration study please let me know.

The second attachment a Lot plan

Mr. Haupt also included a tamarack-area-map.

The date on the second PDF is interesting. September 2007. I suspect many homeowners had already started the construction process. (Sorry for this document being upside down, that’s how it arrived to us).

Additionally, unless I’m missing it, I can’t find a scale on this map to determine how far away the houses are from the line. This just goes to show how difficult it was to find any real information when we were making our initial decision to build our home in Tamarack. The maps we received during our consideration period are even less detailed than this one.

Sign the Petition!

April 23rd, 2009

Please sign the petitition to reduce train noise in Tamarack and neighboring subdivisions. Link on the sidebar to the right or click here.

Contact Info

April 23rd, 2009

Petition to Reduce Train Noise

www.petitiononline.com/CNRail  

CN Rail

contact@cn.ca

APRIL.LEITCH@cn.ca

Dundee

Michael, (General Sales Manager Landmark Homes) michaelh@landmarkgroup.ca

Phone: 780-423-4805 ext 223

City of Edmonton

City councillors amarjeet.sohi@edmonton.ca; dave.thiele@edmonton.ca

Transport Canada Noise/Vibration Guidelines

Transport Canada
Email

Expect the Train to get busier

April 22nd, 2009

I’ve been doing some more research and it appears that expansion of the port at Prince Rupert will likely result in increased train traffic as more goods are hauled along the CN Rail line. From the wikipedia entry:

On September 12, 2007, phase 1 the Fairview Terminal opened for business and is expecting its first container ship (from COSCO) in October. Phase 1 has an annual container-handling capacity of only 500,000 TEUs.[4] However Phase 2, due to be completed late in 2010, will increase the Port of Prince Rupert’s capacity to 2 million TEUs, and to 4 million TEUs by 2015, and there is extensive capacity for further expansion

City of Edmonton and Tamarack

April 22nd, 2009

This pdf available here is the City of Edmonton’s plan for the Tamarack subdivision. I would have expected more discussion of the train line then this:

4.3.8 Private Railway Corporation Right-of-Way

Ensure future development adheres to the guidelines established by Canadian

National Railway (CNR) and Transportation Canada regarding the provision of

separation spaces, fences, berms and buffers.

The Tamarack NSP shall ensure appropriate measures are undertaken to address

the transition between land uses and the private railway corporations’ secondary line.

Such measures may include the consideration of landscaping, berming, sound

attenuation/screen fencing, site design and building orientation. The City of

Edmonton’s Urban Traffic Noise Policy will be followed and noise attenuation will be

provided where required.

Personal Summary

April 22nd, 2009

This is a summary of our own experiences with building a home with Summerhill in the Tamarack subdivision. I posted this to the Connect2Edmonton forum this morning:

Tamarack is a new subdivision that is attracting lots of interest but the developer (Dundee) and various builders are not being entirely fair with their customers. As someone who has been burned by moving into this subdivision I think more people should know about what’s happening.

Basically when the subdivision was open for sale there was no method to actually enter the construction site. None of the developer maps showed that there was a train line in the area! A noisy train that runs very frequently, especially at night.

Those of us who initially purchased lots based on the sitemaps and the assurances of the sales agents were pretty surprised when once the subdivision opened we found out how close the train was to our homes (it basically runs through some people’s backyard!).

So we confronted the builder (Summerhill Homes) but their sales agent told us the line would be discontinued. By the time we found out the truth from CN Rail that the line would not be discontinued, Summerhill had our sizable deposit already.

CN Rail still needs to finish the noise barrier

April 22nd, 2009

There’s a fence that’s about 70% complete that is suppose to block the sound of the trains. I don’t think its very effective, but it should still be finished.

CN Rail told us it would be finished summer 2008. It still isn’t. Also notice the grass, that’s a backyard. There are rows of townhouses backing right onto the train line. We’re a little bit further in and the house shaking keeps us up at night. I don’t know how those guys survive.

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This is what Dundee says about Tamarack

April 22nd, 2009

The following is a sitemap posted in the Tamarack subdivision.

The train line is not shown.

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Dundee’s misleading maps

April 21st, 2009

tamarack2There is a train line in this picture but its hard to see. This picture is from their site at livetamarack.com. The print pictures they were handing out (which I’ll scan and post) don’t have the train line at all.