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Update (and Powerlines!) - November 2009

Thursday, November 19th, 2009

 

Just some quick info:

  • No news from Summerhill about the vibration survey
  • No reply from CN Rail about some of the track changes people have mentioned might be coming (see previous posts)
  • Train seemed super busy the last few weeks, noticed a lot more shaking after a considerable period of ‘quiet’. Trains seemed to carrying heavier/taller roads (i.e., riding well above the fence height)
  • As mentioned previously we have stopped phoning to complain… don’t know if that is or isn’t having any impact
  • The trails through the subdivision are mostly finished, our family has been making extensive use of them… hope to see more families out and about next spring/summer

Powerlines

As many of you know (and have probably received the flyers for), there is a possiblity that large-scale powerlines will be built relatively near the Tamarack subdivision. I urge you to come out to the meeting on November 24/09 to voice your concerns — there is a chance that they might be convinced to bury the lines instead.

Details can be found at www.reta.ca

Noise Control

Monday, September 14th, 2009

I was contacted by David Coate, a noise control specialist. We’re not going to pursue this but in case anyone else wants to talk to an expert, his website is here:

http://www.davidcoateconsulting.com/services.html

We Surrender!

Monday, August 24th, 2009

We’ve done what we can in regards to improving the quality of life in the Tamarack subdivision for those near the tracks, but maintaining the blog and the petition are becoming more exhausting than the train itself! We don’t have the time to continue to track down Summerhill (on the survey issue), or CN (on the crossing arm, et cetera). If Summerhill does reply about doing a new survey, I’ll forward the information onto those who e-mailed me previously, but we won’t be participating.

We love our house, our lot, and are encouraged by what the subdivision may become. We are still frustrated at our particular situation and emphasize with those even closer to the train (especially the owners of the new condos that are going up right beside the track!), but we have grown to used to it. 

This site will remain, for information, but no new comments will be posted.

Best of luck and apologies to anyone who may have been offended by my replies to their comments. I was feeling attacked for trying to better the situation in the subdivision and I was getting frustrated. 

- Brent

Updates - July 2009

Wednesday, July 15th, 2009

Wikipedia

The wikipedia entry over at Tamarack keeps on getting the train reference removed thanks to someone named Boss1696. Bet s/he works for one of the builders or Dundee. I’m getting a little bored of adding it back in, so if someone else wants to keep an eye on that page, that would be great.

CN Rail and the Hypothetical Control Arm

Over a month and CN rail still has not returned my query about whether a crossing arm (as some builders are asserting) is going to be built or not. This is one of the biggest problems with make enquiries of CN — they are very slow to respond. I’ll try another contact e-mail address, I guess.

Summerhill and the Engineers

Still waiting on a quote from the engineering group (to do a vibration study). Will let everyone know when that comes in.

Developers are still ‘bending’ the truth

Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009

So the latest I’m hearing from people who have e-mailed is that sales people for Summerhill, Lincolnberg, Avi, et cetera are still misleading potential buyers.

They are telling them that disturbance from the train is minimal. They have also mentioned that the developer Dundee has a deal with CN Rail where the whistling might stop because they’ve made a deal to subsidize a new control arm. I hope that’s true but I’m doubtful. I’ll do some doublechecking. If anyone actually contacts CN and finds out if this is true let me know.

Update

Friday, June 19th, 2009

It seems the trains are getting busy again, counted four very noisy ones this morning already!

In regards to the subdivision I am waiting on a reply in regards to the cost for doing another ground vibration survey. I’ll let everyone know once I know the details.

If any of you have the time there is a bit of a picnic in the subdivision (to get more homebuyers), might be worthwhile mentioning to potential new residents the effects of the trains on our lives. I’ll be posting some flyers, hopefully the salespeople for Lincolnberg, Summerhill, and such don’t tear them down right away. I noticed the Tamarack entry in the wikipedia keeps on getting the reference to the CN Rail train line removed.

In better news I took a nice bike ride behind the train tracks, near the marsh. Here’s a photo:

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Additionally, some more reference links:
 
Whistle Cessation Guideline:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/RailSafety/Guideline/EliminatingWhistling.htm
 
Train Whistle requirements (CROR rule 14):
http://www.tc.gc.ca/RailSafety/Rules/TCO093/signals.htm
 
Rules for Track Maintenance
http://www.tc.gc.ca/RailSafety/Rules/TCE31.htm (the railway determines the speed they need to operate at (called class of track) and the rules specify the maintenance standards for that class of track.
 
For your information, your house is located at approximately mile 7.0 of the CN Camrose Subdivision and the maximum speed currently allowable on that piece of track is 40 mph (70 kpm).  As discussed, many of the trains may be operating at speeds significantly lower than the maximum which may lead to the impression that some of the trains are speeding.
 
Transport Canada has ongoing programs to regularly monitor train speeds and track maintenance and holds the railway accountable for compliance to the requirements.
 

Tamarack and Trains Update

Monday, May 11th, 2009

Last week I asked if people wanted to contribute to helping fund a reassessment of the vibrations. I’m still collecting responses — if you want to help do something about the trains in Tamarack, please let me know ASAP! I am also contacting Summerhill to figure out what the cost is going to be, as I’m sure that might influence many people’s decision.

In regards to the train survey I am a little concerned about WHEN it would be best to have them come in and down the survey. The last week, for example, hasn’t been that bad for vibration at our house. But a few weeks ago it was horrible. If anyone has any other suggestions on how to ensure that we get the survey done at the right time (when the trains are vibrating the most) please let me know.  Has anyone been keeping better track of when the trains are at their worst?

Tamarack - Summerhill update

Tuesday, May 5th, 2009

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We have received a reply from Michael Haupt the General Manager for Summerhill Homes, in regards to our being disatisfied with how the sale process went for our home in the Tamarack subdivision of Edmonton, Alberta, and how difficult it had been to gather information to make a more informed decision.

This is a high-level summary of his response:

  • A ground vibration study was performed for Dundee (the area developer) on May 23 to June 2 2003 and established that “the ground-bourne vibration level at the building location is expected to fall well below the Reiher and Meister limit of ‘barely noticeable to persons’…
  • On page 2 it is shown that Dundee decided to ignore the CN recommendation for maximum ground vibration and build closer to the tracks than they needed to. “…the ground vibration level at the 45m setback will be approximately 0.16mm/sec slightly exceeding the CN criteria of 0.14 mm/sec.
  • Certain statements in the study such as  on page 3 where it says “As can be seen from Figure 3, the anticipated vibration level at the 45m setback location will be still substantially lower than that caused by bus traffic in front of the house” contradict with our actual experience. We suffer significantly more disturbance than when we lived in a home on a bus route.

Even more concerning is that the construction that is occurring across the alley from us (new homes being dug and built) is causing less vibration and noise than the train.

You can download/read the full cn-rail-line-assessment-tamarack here.

However Mr. Haupt did offer a propsoal. Summerhill Homes is willing to form a committe to review the vibration noise and have another vibration survey performed to see if there have been any changes in rail operation (the last survey was 6 years ago)  and if they are affecting homes.

Summerhill and interested homeowners would share the workload and cost. If you are interested in participating in this please e-mail Brent at knowedge@hotmail.com

That said, even if there are problems found, we would still need to try and work with CN Rail to do something about changing the way the rail line works and based on my discussions with Transport Canada and CN, this is very unlikely. This is one of their most important rail lines.

We haven’t decided exactly what we are going to do. All parties, including the homeowners, share some of the blame but I can’t help but feel that the City of Edmonton and Dundee are the biggest culprits here. There was no need with such a large land mass available to build right beside the tracks.

Anways, if you are interested in working with Summerhill to do another vibration study please let me know.

The second attachment a Lot plan

Mr. Haupt also included a tamarack-area-map.

The date on the second PDF is interesting. September 2007. I suspect many homeowners had already started the construction process. (Sorry for this document being upside down, that’s how it arrived to us).

Additionally, unless I’m missing it, I can’t find a scale on this map to determine how far away the houses are from the line. This just goes to show how difficult it was to find any real information when we were making our initial decision to build our home in Tamarack. The maps we received during our consideration period are even less detailed than this one.

Sign the Petition!

Thursday, April 23rd, 2009

Please sign the petitition to reduce train noise in Tamarack and neighboring subdivisions. Link on the sidebar to the right or click here.

Expect the Train to get busier

Wednesday, April 22nd, 2009

I’ve been doing some more research and it appears that expansion of the port at Prince Rupert will likely result in increased train traffic as more goods are hauled along the CN Rail line. From the wikipedia entry:

On September 12, 2007, phase 1 the Fairview Terminal opened for business and is expecting its first container ship (from COSCO) in October. Phase 1 has an annual container-handling capacity of only 500,000 TEUs.[4] However Phase 2, due to be completed late in 2010, will increase the Port of Prince Rupert’s capacity to 2 million TEUs, and to 4 million TEUs by 2015, and there is extensive capacity for further expansion